I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
domain.
If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
anymore to the sql server.
Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
--
Tom
----
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SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
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"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
domain.
If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
anymore to the sql server.
Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?|||The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and named
pipes is enabled.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> domain.
> If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> anymore to the sql server.
> Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>|||There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
enabled.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and named
pipes is enabled.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> domain.
> If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> anymore to the sql server.
> Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>|||Yes, it is true, I have win 2003 sp1 with firewall activated. But I do an
exceptions on port 1433. here the configuration:
Name MS SQL Server - Tcp 1433
Port number 1433
with scope my network (subnet) only
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
> enabled.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AA55F7BB-2F4D-4207-8953-C104C81F292C@.microsoft.com...
> The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and named
> pipes is enabled.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > domain.
> > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > anymore to the sql server.
> > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >
> >
>|||If you go to the server and attempt to connect via QA or osql, are you
successful?
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:07C15A4D-EABD-42CD-8DB0-3D4C54263503@.microsoft.com...
Yes, it is true, I have win 2003 sp1 with firewall activated. But I do an
exceptions on port 1433. here the configuration:
Name MS SQL Server - Tcp 1433
Port number 1433
with scope my network (subnet) only
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
> enabled.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AA55F7BB-2F4D-4207-8953-C104C81F292C@.microsoft.com...
> The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and
> named
> pipes is enabled.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > domain.
> > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > anymore to the sql server.
> > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >
> >
>|||Hello Yes it's work.
I send you the error from a client:
run-time error -2147217843 (80040e4d)
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Login failed for user
'(null)'. reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL server connection.
it seems not a connection to the SQL but a problem with the trusting
connection.
For internal policy the application always use a trusted windows connection.
May it cannot comunicate with the Win NT 4.0 PDC.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> If you go to the server and attempt to connect via QA or osql, are you
> successful?
>
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:07C15A4D-EABD-42CD-8DB0-3D4C54263503@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, it is true, I have win 2003 sp1 with firewall activated. But I do an
> exceptions on port 1433. here the configuration:
> Name MS SQL Server - Tcp 1433
> Port number 1433
> with scope my network (subnet) only
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
> > enabled.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:AA55F7BB-2F4D-4207-8953-C104C81F292C@.microsoft.com...
> > The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and
> > named
> > pipes is enabled.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable TCP/IP.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > > domain.
> > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Check out the following:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;827422#8
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B27E8D8-4F3A-4EB8-97F9-6781FFD5F937@.microsoft.com...
Hello Yes it's work.
I send you the error from a client:
run-time error -2147217843 (80040e4d)
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Login failed for user
'(null)'. reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL server connection.
it seems not a connection to the SQL but a problem with the trusting
connection.
For internal policy the application always use a trusted windows connection.
May it cannot comunicate with the Win NT 4.0 PDC.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> If you go to the server and attempt to connect via QA or osql, are you
> successful?
>
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:07C15A4D-EABD-42CD-8DB0-3D4C54263503@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, it is true, I have win 2003 sp1 with firewall activated. But I do an
> exceptions on port 1433. here the configuration:
> Name MS SQL Server - Tcp 1433
> Port number 1433
> with scope my network (subnet) only
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
> > enabled.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:AA55F7BB-2F4D-4207-8953-C104C81F292C@.microsoft.com...
> > The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and
> > named
> > pipes is enabled.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable
> > > TCP/IP.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > 4.0
> > > domain.
> > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > connect
> > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
"MarcoC" wrote:
> I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> domain.
> If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> anymore to the sql server.
> Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?|||Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> Check out the following:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;827422#8
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4B27E8D8-4F3A-4EB8-97F9-6781FFD5F937@.microsoft.com...
> Hello Yes it's work.
> I send you the error from a client:
> run-time error -2147217843 (80040e4d)
> [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Login failed for user
> '(null)'. reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL server connection.
> it seems not a connection to the SQL but a problem with the trusting
> connection.
> For internal policy the application always use a trusted windows connection.
> May it cannot comunicate with the Win NT 4.0 PDC.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > If you go to the server and attempt to connect via QA or osql, are you
> > successful?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:07C15A4D-EABD-42CD-8DB0-3D4C54263503@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, it is true, I have win 2003 sp1 with firewall activated. But I do an
> > exceptions on port 1433. here the configuration:
> >
> > Name MS SQL Server - Tcp 1433
> > Port number 1433
> >
> > with scope my network (subnet) only
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > There may be a Windows firewall issue. Check that port 1433 has been
> > > enabled.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:AA55F7BB-2F4D-4207-8953-C104C81F292C@.microsoft.com...
> > > The tcpip is already enabled on the sql server. I mean both tcpip and
> > > named
> > > pipes is enabled.
> > >
> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Use the server network utility on your SQL Server box and enable
> > > > TCP/IP.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > > www.pinpub.com
> > > > ..
> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:512D63C4-1B78-45E3-9A92-744F904F11E9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > > 4.0
> > > > domain.
> > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > connect
> > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
"MarcoC" wrote:
> I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> domain.
> If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> anymore to the sql server.
> Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?|||Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary on the
Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related to
the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
> the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
> available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> "MarcoC" wrote:
> > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > domain.
> > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > anymore to the sql server.
> > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>|||I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
client machines?
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary on
the
Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related to
the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
> the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
> available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> "MarcoC" wrote:
> > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > domain.
> > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > anymore to the sql server.
> > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>|||Yes, I can ping the machines.
I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
caused for
a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS server
are not
configured to be replicated.
I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try to
start the replication.
Please, if you can answer to the following question:
I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the NETBIOS
over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> client machines?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary on
> the
> Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
> related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related to
> the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> >
> > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon to
> > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> >
> > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon server
> > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> >
> > "MarcoC" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt 4.0
> > > domain.
> > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot connect
> > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >
> >
>|||I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to the
IP address itself from the remote client?
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
Yes, I can ping the machines.
I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
caused for
a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS server
are not
configured to be replicated.
I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try to
start the replication.
Please, if you can answer to the following question:
I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the NETBIOS
over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> client machines?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary on
> the
> Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
> related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related to
> the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> >
> > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon
> > to
> > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> >
> > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > server
> > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> >
> > "MarcoC" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > 4.0
> > > domain.
> > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > connect
> > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >
> >
>|||yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to the
> IP address itself from the remote client?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, I can ping the machines.
> I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> caused for
> a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS server
> are not
> configured to be replicated.
> I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try to
> start the replication.
> Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the NETBIOS
> over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
>
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> > client machines?
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> >
> > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary on
> > the
> > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
> > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related to
> > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> > >
> > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication logon
> > > to
> > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> > >
> > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > > server
> > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> > >
> > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > > 4.0
> > > > domain.
> > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > connect
> > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a DNS
server on your network?
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> the
> IP address itself from the remote client?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, I can ping the machines.
> I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> caused for
> a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS server
> are not
> configured to be replicated.
> I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try to
> start the replication.
> Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> NETBIOS
> over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
>
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> > client machines?
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> >
> > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary
> > on
> > the
> > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
> > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related
> > to
> > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> > >
> > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> > > logon
> > > to
> > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> > >
> > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > > server
> > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> > >
> > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > > 4.0
> > > > domain.
> > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > connect
> > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a DNS
> server on your network?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> > the
> > IP address itself from the remote client?
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> >
> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> > caused for
> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS server
> > are not
> > configured to be replicated.
> >
> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try to
> > start the replication.
> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> > NETBIOS
> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> >
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> > > client machines?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> > >
> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the secondary
> > > on
> > > the
> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration is
> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c) related
> > > to
> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> > >
> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > > www.pinpub.com
> > > > ..
> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> > > >
> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> > > > logon
> > > > to
> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> > > >
> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > > > server
> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> > > >
> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows nt
> > > > > 4.0
> > > > > domain.
> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > > connect
> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||have you tried putting an entry into your LMHOSTS file? Also, have you
tried putting entries for all domain controllers in each controller's
LMHOSTS file? Just grabbing at straws here.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
> DNS
> server on your network?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> > the
> > IP address itself from the remote client?
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> >
> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> > caused for
> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
> > server
> > are not
> > configured to be replicated.
> >
> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
> > to
> > start the replication.
> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> > NETBIOS
> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> >
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> > > client machines?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> > >
> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
> > > secondary
> > > on
> > > the
> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
> > > is
> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
> > > related
> > > to
> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> > >
> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > > www.pinpub.com
> > > > ..
> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> > > >
> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> > > > logon
> > > > to
> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> > > >
> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > > > server
> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> > > >
> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
> > > > > nt
> > > > > 4.0
> > > > > domain.
> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > > connect
> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||Be authenticated some ports must be opened. This kb should help.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179442/EN-US/
--
-oj
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
> The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
>> DNS
>> server on your network?
>> --
>> Tom
>> ----
>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> SQL Server MVP
>> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> www.pinpub.com
>> ..
>> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
>> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
>> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
>> > the
>> > IP address itself from the remote client?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > SQL Server MVP
>> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > www.pinpub.com
>> > ..
>> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
>> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
>> >
>> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
>> > caused for
>> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
>> > server
>> > are not
>> > configured to be replicated.
>> >
>> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
>> > to
>> > start the replication.
>> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
>> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
>> > NETBIOS
>> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from
>> > > the
>> > > client machines?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Tom
>> > >
>> > > ----
>> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > > SQL Server MVP
>> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > > www.pinpub.com
>> > > ..
>> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
>> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
>> > >
>> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
>> > > secondary
>> > > on
>> > > the
>> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
>> > > is
>> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
>> > > related
>> > > to
>> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
>> > >
>> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Tom
>> > > >
>> > > > ----
>> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > > > SQL Server MVP
>> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > > > www.pinpub.com
>> > > > ..
>> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
>> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
>> > > >
>> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
>> > > > logon
>> > > > to
>> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
>> > > >
>> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
>> > > > server
>> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
>> > > >
>> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
>> > > > > nt
>> > > > > 4.0
>> > > > > domain.
>> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
>> > > > > connect
>> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
>> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>|||I tried putting the PDC info into LMHOSTS and it doesn't work.
In case I tried also to remove the Win 2003 firewall, but it doesn't work.
It seems the NETBIOS is used to validate the user into a NT domain, as
th File and Printer sharing services needs NETBIOS to work.
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> have you tried putting an entry into your LMHOSTS file? Also, have you
> tried putting entries for all domain controllers in each controller's
> LMHOSTS file? Just grabbing at straws here.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
> Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
> The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
> > DNS
> > server on your network?
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > ----
> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > SQL Server MVP
> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > Toronto, ON Canada
> > www.pinpub.com
> > ..
> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> > yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> > > the
> > > IP address itself from the remote client?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > SQL Server MVP
> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > www.pinpub.com
> > > ..
> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> > > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> > >
> > > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> > > caused for
> > > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
> > > server
> > > are not
> > > configured to be replicated.
> > >
> > > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
> > > to
> > > start the replication.
> > > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> > > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> > > NETBIOS
> > > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> > > > client machines?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > > www.pinpub.com
> > > > ..
> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> > > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> > > >
> > > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
> > > > secondary
> > > > on
> > > > the
> > > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
> > > > is
> > > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
> > > > related
> > > > to
> > > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > ----
> > > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> > > > > SQL Server MVP
> > > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> > > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> > > > > www.pinpub.com
> > > > > ..
> > > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> > > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> > > > >
> > > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> > > > > logon
> > > > > to
> > > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> > > > > server
> > > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
> > > > > > nt
> > > > > > 4.0
> > > > > > domain.
> > > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> > > > > > connect
> > > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> > > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>|||What NetLib are you using? Check both Client Network Utility and Server Network Utility. Named Pipes
uses NetBIOS.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:14130264-7817-4301-B28E-0BC0B2BFFB44@.microsoft.com...
>I tried putting the PDC info into LMHOSTS and it doesn't work.
> In case I tried also to remove the Win 2003 firewall, but it doesn't work.
> It seems the NETBIOS is used to validate the user into a NT domain, as
> th File and Printer sharing services needs NETBIOS to work.
> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> have you tried putting an entry into your LMHOSTS file? Also, have you
>> tried putting entries for all domain controllers in each controller's
>> LMHOSTS file? Just grabbing at straws here.
>> --
>> Tom
>> ----
>> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> SQL Server MVP
>> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> www.pinpub.com
>> ..
>> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
>> Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
>> The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
>> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> > So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
>> > DNS
>> > server on your network?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > SQL Server MVP
>> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > www.pinpub.com
>> > ..
>> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
>> > yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
>> >
>> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
>> > > the
>> > > IP address itself from the remote client?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Tom
>> > >
>> > > ----
>> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > > SQL Server MVP
>> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > > www.pinpub.com
>> > > ..
>> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
>> > > Yes, I can ping the machines.
>> > >
>> > > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
>> > > caused for
>> > > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
>> > > server
>> > > are not
>> > > configured to be replicated.
>> > >
>> > > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
>> > > to
>> > > start the replication.
>> > > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
>> > > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
>> > > NETBIOS
>> > > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
>> > > > client machines?
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Tom
>> > > >
>> > > > ----
>> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > > > SQL Server MVP
>> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > > > www.pinpub.com
>> > > > ..
>> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
>> > > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
>> > > >
>> > > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
>> > > > secondary
>> > > > on
>> > > > the
>> > > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
>> > > > is
>> > > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
>> > > > related
>> > > > to
>> > > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
>> > > >
>> > > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Tom
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----
>> > > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> > > > > SQL Server MVP
>> > > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> > > > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> > > > > www.pinpub.com
>> > > > > ..
>> > > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
>> > > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
>> > > > > logon
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
>> > > > > server
>> > > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
>> > > > > > nt
>> > > > > > 4.0
>> > > > > > domain.
>> > > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
>> > > > > > connect
>> > > > > > anymore to the sql server.
>> > > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>|||on the member server WIN 2003 win SQL server 2000 both are available.
From the client, only tcpip
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> What NetLib are you using? Check both Client Network Utility and Server Network Utility. Named Pipes
> uses NetBIOS.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:14130264-7817-4301-B28E-0BC0B2BFFB44@.microsoft.com...
> >I tried putting the PDC info into LMHOSTS and it doesn't work.
> > In case I tried also to remove the Win 2003 firewall, but it doesn't work.
> >
> > It seems the NETBIOS is used to validate the user into a NT domain, as
> > th File and Printer sharing services needs NETBIOS to work.
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> >> have you tried putting an entry into your LMHOSTS file? Also, have you
> >> tried putting entries for all domain controllers in each controller's
> >> LMHOSTS file? Just grabbing at straws here.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> ----
> >> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> SQL Server MVP
> >> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> Toronto, ON Canada
> >> www.pinpub.com
> >> ..
> >> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
> >> Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
> >> The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
> >>
> >> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >>
> >> > So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
> >> > DNS
> >> > server on your network?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > SQL Server MVP
> >> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > www.pinpub.com
> >> > ..
> >> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> >> > yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> >> >
> >> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> >> > > the
> >> > > IP address itself from the remote client?
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Tom
> >> > >
> >> > > ----
> >> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > > SQL Server MVP
> >> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > > www.pinpub.com
> >> > > ..
> >> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> >> > > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> >> > >
> >> > > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> >> > > caused for
> >> > > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
> >> > > server
> >> > > are not
> >> > > configured to be replicated.
> >> > >
> >> > > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
> >> > > to
> >> > > start the replication.
> >> > > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> >> > > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> >> > > NETBIOS
> >> > > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from the
> >> > > > client machines?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Tom
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----
> >> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > > > SQL Server MVP
> >> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > > > www.pinpub.com
> >> > > > ..
> >> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> >> > > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
> >> > > > secondary
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
> >> > > > related
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Tom
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ----
> >> > > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > > > > SQL Server MVP
> >> > > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > > > > www.pinpub.com
> >> > > > > ..
> >> > > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> >> > > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> >> > > > > logon
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> >> > > > > server
> >> > > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
> >> > > > > > nt
> >> > > > > > 4.0
> >> > > > > > domain.
> >> > > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> >> > > > > > connect
> >> > > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> >> > > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>|||To avoid problem i try to use it without win2003 firewall.
The problem persist.
"oj" wrote:
> Be authenticated some ports must be opened. This kb should help.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179442/EN-US/
> --
> -oj
>
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
> > The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
> >
> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >
> >> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there a
> >> DNS
> >> server on your network?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> ----
> >> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> SQL Server MVP
> >> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> Toronto, ON Canada
> >> www.pinpub.com
> >> ..
> >> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> >> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> >>
> >> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting to
> >> > the
> >> > IP address itself from the remote client?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > SQL Server MVP
> >> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > www.pinpub.com
> >> > ..
> >> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> >> >
> >> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can be
> >> > caused for
> >> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
> >> > server
> >> > are not
> >> > configured to be replicated.
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll try
> >> > to
> >> > start the replication.
> >> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> >> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> >> > NETBIOS
> >> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from
> >> > > the
> >> > > client machines?
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Tom
> >> > >
> >> > > ----
> >> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > > SQL Server MVP
> >> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > > www.pinpub.com
> >> > > ..
> >> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> >> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> >> > >
> >> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
> >> > > secondary
> >> > > on
> >> > > the
> >> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c) registration
> >> > > is
> >> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
> >> > > related
> >> > > to
> >> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Tom
> >> > > >
> >> > > > ----
> >> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> > > > SQL Server MVP
> >> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> > > > www.pinpub.com
> >> > > > ..
> >> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> >> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows authentication
> >> > > > logon
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no logon
> >> > > > server
> >> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a windows
> >> > > > > nt
> >> > > > > 4.0
> >> > > > > domain.
> >> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i cannot
> >> > > > > connect
> >> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> >> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>|||I just went back and reread your post...
NT4 network requires NETBIOS to be enabled for authentication. NT5 (win2k)
and up can authenticate without NETBIOS. The bottom line, this is by design
and you should move to Win2k3 as Win2k support is being terminated.
--
-oj
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5E1660C3-654C-4D84-9EDB-D79FECFB038E@.microsoft.com...
> To avoid problem i try to use it without win2003 firewall.
> The problem persist.
> "oj" wrote:
>> Be authenticated some ports must be opened. This kb should help.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179442/EN-US/
>> --
>> -oj
>>
>> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
>> > Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
>> > The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
>> >
>> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >
>> >> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there
>> >> a
>> >> DNS
>> >> server on your network?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> ----
>> >> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> >> SQL Server MVP
>> >> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> >> Toronto, ON Canada
>> >> www.pinpub.com
>> >> ..
>> >> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
>> >> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
>> >>
>> >> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > IP address itself from the remote client?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Tom
>> >> >
>> >> > ----
>> >> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> >> > SQL Server MVP
>> >> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> >> > Toronto, ON Canada
>> >> > www.pinpub.com
>> >> > ..
>> >> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
>> >> >
>> >> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can
>> >> > be
>> >> > caused for
>> >> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
>> >> > server
>> >> > are not
>> >> > configured to be replicated.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll
>> >> > try
>> >> > to
>> >> > start the replication.
>> >> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
>> >> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
>> >> > NETBIOS
>> >> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > client machines?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Tom
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----
>> >> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> >> > > SQL Server MVP
>> >> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> >> > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> >> > > www.pinpub.com
>> >> > > ..
>> >> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
>> >> > > secondary
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c)
>> >> > > registration
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
>> >> > > related
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > Tom
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > ----
>> >> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
>> >> > > > SQL Server MVP
>> >> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
>> >> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
>> >> > > > www.pinpub.com
>> >> > > > ..
>> >> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
>> >> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows
>> >> > > > authentication
>> >> > > > logon
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no
>> >> > > > logon
>> >> > > > server
>> >> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a
>> >> > > > > windows
>> >> > > > > nt
>> >> > > > > 4.0
>> >> > > > > domain.
>> >> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i
>> >> > > > > cannot
>> >> > > > > connect
>> >> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
>> >> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>|||So, in my configuration, SQL server 2000 on Win 2003 member server, in Win NT
4.0 domain PDC, the SQL windows authentication need NETBIOS to be enabled on
the member server in order to authenticate the user on Win NT 4.0 PDC.
Is it right ?
"oj" wrote:
> I just went back and reread your post...
> NT4 network requires NETBIOS to be enabled for authentication. NT5 (win2k)
> and up can authenticate without NETBIOS. The bottom line, this is by design
> and you should move to Win2k3 as Win2k support is being terminated.
> --
> -oj
>
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5E1660C3-654C-4D84-9EDB-D79FECFB038E@.microsoft.com...
> > To avoid problem i try to use it without win2003 firewall.
> > The problem persist.
> >
> > "oj" wrote:
> >
> >> Be authenticated some ports must be opened. This kb should help.
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179442/EN-US/
> >>
> >> --
> >> -oj
> >>
> >>
> >> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E09FA9AE-24D9-43ED-B848-DDEB89027421@.microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes, the PDC and BDC are also WINS, DNS and DCHP.
> >> > The DNS and DHCP service is from VitalQIP software
> >> >
> >> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So this is sounding more like a name resolution issue then. Is there
> >> >> a
> >> >> DNS
> >> >> server on your network?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Tom
> >> >>
> >> >> ----
> >> >> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> >> SQL Server MVP
> >> >> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> >> Toronto, ON Canada
> >> >> www.pinpub.com
> >> >> ..
> >> >> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:5E4E5E5A-FF35-4662-980C-CF8D834FF732@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> yes, normally it works fine, and i have no problem on the network.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not sure about your need for NETBIOS. Have you tried connecting
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > IP address itself from the remote client?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Tom
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----
> >> >> > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> >> > SQL Server MVP
> >> >> > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> >> > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> >> > www.pinpub.com
> >> >> > ..
> >> >> > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:7E23D217-242B-4ED6-AA89-BE26FAF175E0@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Yes, I can ping the machines.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I found in Internet that the logon problem in a WINS environment can
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > caused for
> >> >> > a replication between the WINS servers. it is true that my two WINS
> >> >> > server
> >> >> > are not
> >> >> > configured to be replicated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't know if could solve the problem, but tomorrow morning I'll
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > start the replication.
> >> >> > Please, if you can answer to the following question:
> >> >> > I need the NETBIOS over TCPIP in a WINS environment, and I need the
> >> >> > NETBIOS
> >> >> > over TCPIP on a Windows NT domain ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > I'm not sure if that is the problem. Can you ping the server from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > client machines?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Tom
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > ----
> >> >> > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> >> > > SQL Server MVP
> >> >> > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> >> > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> >> > > www.pinpub.com
> >> >> > > ..
> >> >> > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:B351CD51-A0A8-4438-AF7B-0F7FEB1FDD27@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > Could be I have some problem on the WINS registration ?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have two WINS server, the primary on the Win NT 4.0 BDC the
> >> >> > > secondary
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > Win NT 4.0 PDC. I see that on the primary the domain(1c)
> >> >> > > registration
> >> >> > > is
> >> >> > > related to the BDC server. No server registration as domain(1c)
> >> >> > > related
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > the PDC server (ip address) on the primary.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Tom Moreau" wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > I'll post the problem in the MVP group and see what I can find.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > --
> >> >> > > > Tom
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > ----
> >> >> > > > Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> >> >> > > > SQL Server MVP
> >> >> > > > Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> >> >> > > > Toronto, ON Canada
> >> >> > > > www.pinpub.com
> >> >> > > > ..
> >> >> > > > "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > > > news:E4AA3243-A5A4-417D-BB02-2EF03E59F3D9@.microsoft.com...
> >> >> > > > Yes, I read it, but I continue to don't understand why ?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > The win 2003 member server to validate the windows
> >> >> > > > authentication
> >> >> > > > logon
> >> >> > > > to
> >> >> > > > the win NT 4.0 PDC need the NETBIOS ?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > The Event viewer on the win 2003 server say that there is no
> >> >> > > > logon
> >> >> > > > server
> >> >> > > > available, only if I disable the NETBIOS over TCPIP.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > "MarcoC" wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > > I have a win 2003 member server with sql server 2000 on a
> >> >> > > > > windows
> >> >> > > > > nt
> >> >> > > > > 4.0
> >> >> > > > > domain.
> >> >> > > > > If I disable the netbios oveer tcpip on win 2003 server i
> >> >> > > > > cannot
> >> >> > > > > connect
> >> >> > > > > anymore to the sql server.
> >> >> > > > > Maybe because i'm working on a win nt 4.0 domain ?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>|||That is correct. Basically, SQL Server just passes the user sid to NT domain
controller for authentication (in Windows authentication mode). Since you're
on NT4, Netbios is needed to talk to the DC.
There are a few options here:
1. Enable Netbios on SQL Server so you can get authenticated by NT4 DC
2. Disable Netbios on SQL Server but you must use SQL authentication
3. Upgrade your network to NT5+
--
-oj
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:253E57A7-FC65-4DCA-B92D-099D40B05A64@.microsoft.com...
> So, in my configuration, SQL server 2000 on Win 2003 member server, in Win
> NT
> 4.0 domain PDC, the SQL windows authentication need NETBIOS to be enabled
> on
> the member server in order to authenticate the user on Win NT 4.0 PDC.
> Is it right ?
> "oj" wrote:
>> I just went back and reread your post...
>> NT4 network requires NETBIOS to be enabled for authentication. NT5
>> (win2k)
>> and up can authenticate without NETBIOS. The bottom line, this is by
>> design
>> and you should move to Win2k3 as Win2k support is being terminated.
>> --
>> -oj|||My vote is for #3. Thanx, for the assist, oj. :-)
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Columnist, SQL Server Professional
Toronto, ON Canada
www.pinpub.com
.
"oj" <nospam_ojngo@.home.com> wrote in message
news:OYX5bVUfFHA.3316@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
That is correct. Basically, SQL Server just passes the user sid to NT domain
controller for authentication (in Windows authentication mode). Since you're
on NT4, Netbios is needed to talk to the DC.
There are a few options here:
1. Enable Netbios on SQL Server so you can get authenticated by NT4 DC
2. Disable Netbios on SQL Server but you must use SQL authentication
3. Upgrade your network to NT5+
--
-oj
"MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:253E57A7-FC65-4DCA-B92D-099D40B05A64@.microsoft.com...
> So, in my configuration, SQL server 2000 on Win 2003 member server, in Win
> NT
> 4.0 domain PDC, the SQL windows authentication need NETBIOS to be enabled
> on
> the member server in order to authenticate the user on Win NT 4.0 PDC.
> Is it right ?
> "oj" wrote:
>> I just went back and reread your post...
>> NT4 network requires NETBIOS to be enabled for authentication. NT5
>> (win2k)
>> and up can authenticate without NETBIOS. The bottom line, this is by
>> design
>> and you should move to Win2k3 as Win2k support is being terminated.
>> --
>> -oj|||thank to all of you very much.
I suppose it, and now I have the confirmation. Perhaps I can upgrade only
the member server ro Win2003. About the domain controller I have to wait a
more wide upgrade.
Ciao Marco
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> My vote is for #3. Thanx, for the assist, oj. :-)
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
> SQL Server MVP
> Columnist, SQL Server Professional
> Toronto, ON Canada
> www.pinpub.com
> ..
> "oj" <nospam_ojngo@.home.com> wrote in message
> news:OYX5bVUfFHA.3316@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> That is correct. Basically, SQL Server just passes the user sid to NT domain
> controller for authentication (in Windows authentication mode). Since you're
> on NT4, Netbios is needed to talk to the DC.
> There are a few options here:
> 1. Enable Netbios on SQL Server so you can get authenticated by NT4 DC
> 2. Disable Netbios on SQL Server but you must use SQL authentication
> 3. Upgrade your network to NT5+
> --
> -oj
>
> "MarcoC" <MarcoC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:253E57A7-FC65-4DCA-B92D-099D40B05A64@.microsoft.com...
> > So, in my configuration, SQL server 2000 on Win 2003 member server, in Win
> > NT
> > 4.0 domain PDC, the SQL windows authentication need NETBIOS to be enabled
> > on
> > the member server in order to authenticate the user on Win NT 4.0 PDC.
> >
> > Is it right ?
> >
> > "oj" wrote:
> >
> >> I just went back and reread your post...
> >>
> >> NT4 network requires NETBIOS to be enabled for authentication. NT5
> >> (win2k)
> >> and up can authenticate without NETBIOS. The bottom line, this is by
> >> design
> >> and you should move to Win2k3 as Win2k support is being terminated.
> >>
> >> --
> >> -oj
>
>
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